Thursday, April 23, 2009

Post 1: What is Indifference? (Post Due Date: Sunday, May 3rd no later than 5 p.m.)

Read the following excerpt taken from http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/wiesel.htm. This is an overview of Wiesel's life and experiences.


Holocaust survivor and Nobel Laureate, Elie Wiesel, gave this impassioned speech in the East Room of the White House on April 12, 1999, as part of the Millennium Lecture series, hosted by President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.
In the summer of 1944, as a teenager in Hungary, Elie Wiesel, along with his father, mother and sisters, were deported by the Nazis to Auschwitz extermination camp in occupied Poland. Upon arrival there, Wiesel and his father were selected by SS Dr. Josef Mengele for slave labor and wound up at the nearby Buna rubber factory.
Daily life included starvation rations of soup and bread, brutal discipline, and a constant struggle against overwhelming despair. At one point, young Wiesel received 25 lashes of the whip for a minor infraction... Since 1976, he has been Andrew Mellon Professor in the Humanities at Boston University. He has received numerous awards and honors including the 1986 Nobel Peace Prize and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He was also the Founding Chair of the United States Holocaust Memorial. Wiesel has written over 40 books including Night, a harrowing chronicle of his Holocaust experiences, first published in 1960.


In Wiesel's speech at the White House, "The Perils of Indifference", he goes on to explain the term "indifference"--a term with which you will need to get familiar:


Gratitude is a word that I cherish. Gratitude is what defines the humanity of the human being. And I am grateful to you, Hillary -- or Mrs. Clinton -- for what you said, and for what you are doing for children in the world, for the homeless, for the victims of injustice, the victims of destiny and society. And I thank all of you for being here.
We are on the threshold of a new century, a new millennium. What will the legacy of this vanishing century be? How will it be remembered in the new millennium? Surely it will be judged, and judged severely, in both moral and metaphysical terms. These failures have cast a dark shadow over humanity: two World Wars, countless civil wars, the senseless chain of assassinations -- Gandhi, the Kennedys, Martin Luther King, Sadat, Rabin -- bloodbaths in Cambodia and Nigeria, India and Pakistan, Ireland and Rwanda, Eritrea and Ethiopia, Sarajevo and Kosovo; the inhumanity in the gulag and the tragedy of Hiroshima. And, on a different level, of course, Auschwitz and Treblinka. So much violence, so much indifference.
What is indifference? Etymologically, the word means "no difference." A strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil.
What are its courses and inescapable consequences? Is it a philosophy? Is there a philosophy of indifference conceivable? Can one possibly view indifference as a virtue? Is it necessary at times to practice it simply to keep one's sanity, live normally, enjoy a fine meal and a glass of wine, as the world around us experiences harrowing upheavals?
Of course, indifference can be tempting -- more than that, seductive. It is so much easier to look away from victims. It is so much easier to avoid such rude interruptions to our work, our dreams, our hopes. It is, after all, awkward, troublesome, to be involved in another person's pain and despair. Yet, for the person who is indifferent, his or her neighbor are of no consequence. And, therefore, their lives are meaningless. Their hidden or even visible anguish is of no interest. Indifference reduces the other to an abstraction.
Over there, behind the black gates of Auschwitz, the most tragic of all prisoners were the "Muselmanner," as they were called. Wrapped in their torn blankets, they would sit or lie on the ground, staring vacantly into space, unaware of who or where they were, strangers to their surroundings. They no longer felt pain, hunger, thirst. They feared nothing. They felt nothing. They were dead and did not know it.
Rooted in our tradition, some of us felt that to be abandoned by humanity then was not the ultimate. We felt that to be abandoned by God was worse than to be punished by Him. Better an unjust God than an indifferent one. For us to be ignored by God was a harsher punishment than to be a victim of His anger. Man can live far from God -- not outside God. God is wherever we are. Even in suffering? Even in suffering.
In a way, to be indifferent to that suffering is what makes the human being inhuman. Indifference, after all, is more dangerous than anger and hatred. Anger can at times be creative. One writes a great poem, a great symphony, one does something special for the sake of humanity because one is angry at the injustice that one witnesses. But indifference is never creative. Even hatred at times may elicit a response. You fight it. You denounce it. You disarm it. Indifference elicits no response. Indifference is not a response.
Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten. The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees -- not to respond to their plight, not to relieve their solitude by offering them a spark of hope is to exile them from human memory. And in denying their humanity we betray our own.
Indifference, then, is not only a sin, it is a punishment. And this is one of the most important lessons of this outgoing century's wide-ranging experiments in good and evil.




Part 1
*Please respond to the following in ONE post, due by Sunday May 3rd, no later than 5 p.m.:
-What is indifference as defined by Wiesel?
-What are we indifferent to in OUR world today?

Part 2
*Please respond to another person's post by Sunday May 3rd, no later than 5 p.m.



*All posts must be at least 5-7 sentences in length for full credit

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  6. Brandon H-
    Indifference means that there is no difference between friends and enemy, there is no difference between what is right and wrong. being able to not pay attention to what you are doing with everything.

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  8. Indifference is bad. It's dangerous to it's surroundings. "Etymologically, the word means "no difference." A strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil.
    "-Elie Wiesel
    That to be indifferent, is to look for an easy way out of everyone else's problems and selfishly look at your own. To not help when someone's life depends on your hand to pull them out to safety. Being indifferent is like what Elie said about God ignoring you. It's the worst thing that can happen in life to be rejected by the one being you have to look towards for help.
    We are indifferent to the genocide in Rwanda. We are just ignoring it, AFTER we've noted that it's genocide.

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  9. Indifference means "no difference."
    Being indifferent is being friends with the enemy. We are indifferent about the feelings of others, and not only are we indifferent to the people around us, but when we deny the humanity of another human being then we are not being true to ourselves. We should take more time to notice what is going on with our surroundings instead of being selfish and not thinking about others and what they go through.

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  12. Jackie Blesoch- Indifference to Elie Wiesel means the enemy of all victims. It is the world ignoring the problems of the world because it will mess up the lives of the people that aren;t being punished. We are indiffent to geocide. Because woh wants to believe that people are dying because they are a certain race. It is just like in the beginning of Night, they did not believe Moishe the beatle when he wax coming to warn everyone that they were killing people because it would disturb their life. everything is going good, why mess it up? That is the reason why not that many people want to believe in Genocide.

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  13. Patrick Lewis- Indifference means there is a lack of interest or concern. For example after the Holocaust in Germany the UN didn't want to get involved with other countries. Even when they were experienccing a genocide like Germany was they tried there best not to get involved. They felt like it was not there concern even though there is a law where they have to prevent genocide. Elie Wiesel says "Indifference, after all, is more dangerous than anger and hatred." I think he is saying not helping or caring is more dangerous then hating someone beacuse when if you hate someone your still paying attention to them.

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  14. CHELSEY KEYES---indifference is too be different (in a way). to make friends wit the enemy. like wiesel said; "Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy,". Not really caring one way or the other.
    For example, im at lunch right? i see this ol nerdy boy gettin got for his (lunch) money. And i do nothing, but go on about my business, when i easliy could have tried to stop thee bullyer or maybe bought him (the nerd) something.
    So i could have stopped him but i didnt, that right there was indifferent. I clearly could have helped but i did NOTHING to even try. So was i being true to myself if i didnt help? No. when really indifference is really all about being true to ourselves.

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  16. Travis Hale-- In my own words, indifference means lack of interest or concern. If you are indifferent of something then it holds no importance to you. In today's society we are indifferent of each other. We need to understand that we are all the same, in the way that we are all human. People act differently but that does not mean that they don't think and feel the same way as you.
    In response to bskrei --
    Yeah bro, totally agree. indiffernce is a selfish thing. we should do all that we can to help stop indiffence in the world. we should do all that we can to help stop genocide in Rwanda. If we stop indifference, we stop violence.

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  17. In RESPONSE to...d.Richardson; CHELSEY KEYES--- I do totally agree with you. Not being true to ourselves is what indifference is all about. To not respond to the problem is like to hurt your self and not care for it (if ya feel me). Just to stop and think about problems around the world today is not being selfish; because at least you are trying. sooo like you and i both said. you just gotta stay true to thee (blue).... hahaha no too the INDIFFERENCE.

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  19. Danielle Slade--Indifference in Wiesel's eyes, is not acting upon an injustice action or situation. Seeing or knowing someone who is being treated unfairly, physically or mentally, and not taking any action to stop it, is being indifferent. Indifference to Wiesel, is worse then any type of anger, or hateful crime towards someone, because if you have anger or hate with someone, you are giving that person attention. Even though it is bad attention, you acknowldege that they are there and are willing to devote some of your time towards them. With indifference, you show no interest in the person. You act as if they don't exist, and that they don't have a place in the world.

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  20. What does Wiesel mean when he defines indifference?
    I feel what Wiesel is trying to get at in his speech “indifference” is that people today is not taking action when injustice is happening. Like we don’t care what happens to other if it’s not in our interest. I feel that his saying that we shouldn’t think this way because its wrong. For example he says “It is so much easier to look away from victims. It is so much easier to avoid such rude interruptions to our work, our dreams, our hopes. It is, after all, awkward, troublesome, to be involved in another person's pain and despair.” I see the world doing indifference today and in the past. Like in the past situations around the world the USA hesitated to take action in some events which lead to million of victims deaths because it wasn’t their concerns or in their interest. I’m not blaming the USA but it’s like what Wiesel saying that it was so easier to look away. People today feel that USA shouldnt always have to always fix other countrys problems but aren’t we doing indifference?

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  21. Courtney Schulte believes...Indifference to Elie Wiesel means that it's so easy to lose side of what you truely believe in just because somebody else thinks differently then you do. instead of just saying your believes you hide from the world.we are all indifferencing in the world by saying things we may or may not really mean because if we say or do something that seems wrong to our surrounding we will be though of as a bad person.

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  22. Carissa Cabrera--The meaning of indifferent is "NO DIFFERENT." A strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil. In todays society we are all indifferent...We all act and do some of the same things in the same ways.

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  23. In response to "O SO FRESH" aka Chelsey Keyes; Carissa Cabrera--I agree with you and how you brought a *great point across like the whole lunch money and the bully incident. Everyone should know that everyone is the same, also known as indifferent, and no one really has a higher standing than anyone else. In that incident that you pointed out how the bully thought that he was king of the world while the nerdy boy got jacked for his luch money and how you just stood there and watch it all happened!?! Which definitly shows indifferent and the way people just watch what happens instead of doing something about it!!(good job girl.) ;P

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  24. indiffernce means the end not the begining.to wiesel it means to help the bad people not the good.the indiference today is wars,school shootings and fights.

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  25. Tina Deasis- What chu' saying? Tina Say's:
    Indifferent? Well in the blog above it says that indifferent means "no different" meaning that there is really no one that is different. In our world today indifferent is very common everyone is pretty much equal in today's society. When indifferent is used in the blog it say's "strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil". So there is always something good there will always be something bad. A back up to each cruel thing, well in my opinion.

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    ue...... i agree with travis hale beacuse it is a lack of concern for the people that really do need our help we just act like we dont even care.like people in the holocaust have been through a lot and when they cried bloody murder no one helped maybe we should be more concern.from spring

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  27. In Response to spring abron:
    When you say the word indifferent means the end, not the beginning "what comes to mind"? Is it like something deep that goes beyond like a poem? Well I can agree to what you are saying but what if you said something like "There is no different way of putting this, but the beginning and end will both be an equal story like? where in the beginning it starts! and in the end you get something out of it? well i dont know just respond back if you don't get it okay

    Tina

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  28. Indifference, according to Wiesel, is a state that draws a line through two or more different meanings that has different ideas or views. It's not a response or a beginning, it's a end and punishment that reduces progress from happening due to the different views everyone has on the subject. It causes people to make others like they don't know what they are doing and would try to get them to do what they want. Indifference today is the genocide in Darfur. Some people believe that should help end the genocide in Darfur but other believe that we do not have any business helping every country that has a problem.

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  29. Weisel defines indifference to be seductively careless as if whatever was happening was a mundane occurrence. We have no particular interest in something that happens regularly and might plight to our conservative values; to ignore the problems abroad as it was or made no consequence in our life. It’s a common aspect we have in all of us—And I say aspect because, according to the text, and I‘m sure we‘ve all faced this, we as humans are inhumane because of this quality and since it executes no response, a preemptive ending, it is a innate fact that we as humans possess this inadvertent suffering. We then conform to the brute of adversity, preserving this violence we so thought was ‘minding our own business‘. Provoking it even more. A causative extends of chain-indifference.
    In today’s society, we face this in many instances. Such as religion. In a way, not believing in a God, is like God ignoring you or you ignoring God. But for those who do believe, you gain fear, anxiety to keep that significance in your life. Like many regarded before, the Genocide is much like this.

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  30. in response to alex s: i competely agree with what alex says in that todays indifference is in darfur. that we could turn away from these people that need any help they can get is cruel. that we know what is happening is genocide makes it that much worse...we should try to figure out a way to help without having to sacrifice as much as we've done in the past. how many of our men and women must die before we can save others?

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  31. Brady Skrei..
    In response to Tavis Hale.
    I like how you said it. We are all the same. Yes we all act and look differently from one another.. but we are all still flesh and bones.. We need to get back to the time where we all hold hands and sing campfire songs =D.

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  32. I am responding to alex Setuckmarie-
    I agree with this "BLOG" completely. Indifferent does mean two things and and weisel evidently said they mean that two different meanings even though he does not specify. I really liked the fact that you said indifference is genocide in Darfur (setickmarie 4-29-2009). But I think that indifference is the way we view things as to nazi's for example, because they thought that they were doing the right thing. But that does not justify the fact that they did.

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  33. Mary F- "indifference literally means no difference. a strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil".-Elie Weisel to be indiffernet means you can look away from victims. it also means you can ignore whats happening. to be without consequence for not paying attention to the evil surroundings of war or what-not...(first post, forgot to cite)

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  34. In response to Danielle:
    I agree with what you said or typed about indifference. I like how you explain what the meaning of indifference from the perspective of Elie Wiesel. You go in great details of what indifference can do to people and how people react to it. With good details on indifference where is the example. You did not mention any example of indifference happening in the present.

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  35. bskrei, I agree!(that rhymes).
    We have noted that is it a genocide, yet we aren't doing anything to prevent that from recurring. And from what Elie said, "you are always benefiting the aggressor". But as some stated, others believe that we do not have any business helping every country that has a problem, it is true. But does it affect us? Or, how would it affect us by aiding this genocide? Especially with the economic crisis the u.s. is facing at the moment, it is probably in our best interest to keep to ourselves.

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  36. oh...i want to delete that first part...

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  37. In response to Alex S:
    "indifference literally means no difference. to me indifference can mean alot of diffrent thing's. some people can not deal with indifferences.

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  38. in response to Brady Skrei,I agree with you,because so many people treat us all different when in reality we are all the same.we just express it in different ways then our peers would do.

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  39. Patrick Lewis- I agree with my mans Travis way up top. I probably because his answer is just like mine. Indifference is a very selfish thing. If you see someone in need of help why not help. With people who don't help i find that the only person you should trust in the world is you and no one else. life shouldn't be like that but with people like that is there any other philosophy on life?

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  40. In respmse to brandon H:
    "Indifference means that there is no difference between friends and enemy", that is not true there is a major difference between friends and enemys. my friends will be there if i need them to be there but my enemys will not show up or if they do they wont do anything.

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  41. Jackie Blesoch-in response to Arely, I agree with what you say, but not everyone has the power to change the world. It cost too much pain and suffering to help others when we are selves, don’t have the necessary resources to help others. We all want to believe that the world today is not like before when Hitler ruled most pf Europe. No one wants another genocide but the leaders of that we choose to lead us have to think about our people before others. We can’t go saving everyone when we have a bigger risk of our people dying. I’m not saying that indifference is good, but we have to think of how many people have to die in order to save others. We have to think of the resources and lives that we are going to lose. Freedom is what the U.S. is all about, but we aren’t the only people in the world.

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  42. Response to Courtney Schulte- Courtney I agree with you. I think that part of Wiesel's speech. People today are so caught up to what other think about them and they aren’t being true to them self, and that’s what indifference is. So yeah People should say what they believe so other can see different views. I think that if we could say more would could kind of stop indifference in a small but helpful way. .. But I definitely agree with you Courtney.

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  43. In response to Tina Deasis:
    Danielle Slade--I am very confused with what you are saying about "indifference" It sounds like you are saying that indifferent, is not being different from someone else;you are equal to them. However, indifference is, the lack of concern for something. Like, seeing someone get beat, and instead of doing something to help them, you ignore them and act as if they don't exist. I think you misread what Elie Wiesal was saying about "indifference."

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  44. Adrian Pareja-- According to the words of Elie Wiesel, to be indifferent means to lack the motivation to involve ones self in unethical and unjust situations that arise; whether it be close by or in a remote location. Everyone has their own values, and I believe we should address situations in order to mirror our values, whether it be by involving ourselves by reaching out to others, or even just considering an alternative means to finding a solution.

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  45. In Response to Danielle Slade:

    Tina Deasis, I did read the blog correctly and in my mind i think differently. You might have not understood what i was saying, but thats the point to make you write back and explain in more depth. I know that indifference means no different and im pretty sure that everybody experiences it in there lives. I didn't misread it i just wanted to create my own conjecture. Im not the type of person who will take it from word to word and try to put it in my own way.

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  46. SAMUEL HAYWOOD -- "Yet, for the person who is indifferent, his or her neighbor are of no consequence." -Wiesel

    Out of all the inspiring words Elie Wiesel proclaimed at the White House, this is the one phrase that perplexed me. What did he mean "of no consequence?" When I did a definition search using Answers.com on the word consequence, I discovered an appropriate application for Wiesel's context: "importance in rank or position; or significance, importance." Essentially, what Elie was saying is if a person is indifferent to anothers' suffering, then they do not care about that person enough at all - the other person is as not as high of a rank or position compared to themselves... of no consequence (significance).
    Today, indifference is still common. Places like Darfur which is suffering genocide directed by the Sudanese government, are not given aid by the U.S. In your life, however, indifference can also be found. Today, I went up to Seattle and Pikes Place and I saw people that needed someone to be there for them or some money, but as usual, I just walked by. The day before, I went to my friends play and during the break, I noticed that the main girl in the play seemed to be insecure, like she desperately needed a friend, even though she was around people she knew (who weren't talking to her). I was afraid that if I decided to be friendly and talk to her, she could take it the wrong way and become attached to me. I am sure you all can find your own incidents of indifference in your own lives, challenge yourself to see others with value, with significance.

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  47. SAMUEL HAYWOOD -- Response to <<--armandoramz(ARMANDO)-->>:

    I liked the way you put the concept of "no consequence" in your answer to the question, it was a great way to explain the phrase just in your regular dialog and did not sway away from the context's original meaning. It's always good to have plenty of minds together! I definetly agree with your perspective and is also insightful. If you read mine, it will have reflected a lot of what you said in your earlier blog. We thought alike in our evaluation of the excerpt. By the way, I like your idea of indifference today.

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  49. Indifference means "no difference". It is "a strange and unnatural state in which the lines blur between light and darkness, dusk and dawn, crime and punishment, cruelty and compassion, good and evil" (Wiesel). For Wiesel, indifference is the opposite of love rather than hate. It has all the negative aspects. We are indifferent in our relationship with others. we don't know what indifference means until we have profoundly loved somebody who is indifferent to us and our relationship. It's only cure is to turn our attention to fiery living in every area of our lives to set us free from its abundance.

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  50. Zaire Worrell-To Elie Wiesel indifference is that you turn and look the other way when some one needs help. but you know that you can't help because it might put your self in danger so do nothing.knowing the you can do something to help and getting alot of other people to help you can make a better change for you and everone else.

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  51. Responding to Tina Deasis - that everything in that world can never be the all fun and games . some people will get hurt in change.what needs to happen is that we should have a better part.

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  52. Christine Rosario -- In response to Chelsey:

    i agree with you. In our modern world, people refuse to help others for various reasons and hatred is one. Some of us may think that hatred is bound for the slow poisoning of relationships that we see and experience all around us in the world today, but it really is not. Indifference is responsible for it. We must treat others how we want them to treat us.

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  53. Adrian Pareja-- In response to Sam Haywood- I totally agree with your outlook on indifference. I liked you example about your friends play because I often find times where I find myself being indifferent towards others because I can feel insecure about how others would view me if I tried to act on something. Your comment made me reevaluate how I am socially, and I think that I should care less about what others may think of me, cause I'll never know whats gonna happen until I try putting int he effort.

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  54. Indiffence is described as a act of selfishness according to wiesel. One must determine thier stand on the overview of the social issues. Some people rather be an inocent by stander than be a possible hero. In todays world unfortantly i know more people would rather avoid or stay out of a problem than solve it. One example of a recent event that shows self pity, is the ditress in rwanda. The United Nations claimed they didnt want to intervene in any altercations to casue any bigger disaters. One wonders how the world cant see the effects of mass killings and learn to help instead of hide in fear.

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  55. In response to Alex stuckmane:

    I truly agree with your personal opinon and where you stand. Most would belive that in difference is not only the actions of someone but it is also a act of life. Its imperative for all to have right and high morals in order to live a healthy life. When one show s any form of indiffernce, this just sets up faliure for the future. The line between the enemy and innocent lifes is made with indifference.

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  56. indifference meaning no difference not caring about others
    in today's world like how Wiesel talks about is that we can be indifferent about many things even our neighbors to not care. children of today are indifferent about many things a big thing would be that which is homework.

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  57. responding to brady's post

    i agree with him about "That to be indifferent, is to look for an easy way out of everyone else's problems and selfishly look at your own. bskrei" its so much easier to focus on your own problems then on others...in my opinion human nature see's it easier to focus on your own needs and ignore others.
    its true how we are just ignoreing the genocide in rwanda how we ignore it i dont know.

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  58. Weisels definition of indiference is the lack of motivation to take action. Without action, many oppressors will be able to reign in their unjust and unruly ways. We are indifferent today by being allowed to be pushed around by terrorists who make decisions to kill innocence and destrtoy all things of democracy.

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  59. response to shanika marlow
    i totally agree with shanika and her interpretation on indifference. selfishness is truely the worst sin because it is involved in every sin. With good morals, we can cheat selfishness and indifference by thinking of others and putting their problems in front of ours.

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  60. Elie Weisel, in his speech, clearly states, "Indifference is not a beginning, it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten.", and through these words indirectly states that to be indifferent is worse than to be angry or hateful, for at least anger and hate generate a response. To be indifferent is to give the perpetrator permission to continue with these inhumane acts because we do "nothing". Therefore, it is interpretated as the punishment for such things will be "nothing". We give up our own humanity when we turn our backs on fellow human beings because in a way we have forgotten them. We have lowered them to a level of "less than human" and in doing so lowered ourselves in the same manner.. Regardless of race, gender, age, color, sexual preference, ethnicity, and/or manner of thinking.. We all bleed the same blood. Today indifference is not only seen on a much wider scale, but in the everyday lifestyles of individuals. The kid in the hallway who's always harassed because of the style of clothes he wears. The old woman rudely being pushed down because she was a little too slow. Your own siblings unjustly being subjected to domestic violence because they "missed a spot on the bathroom floor", but you'd sooner remain quiet than receive a blow for yourself. Society today has somehow managed to instill the theory of "minding our own business" into our heads, and in doing so opened opportunities to the cruel and unusual. The once hated words of Darwin's "survival of the fittest" in our quest for equality and fighting for such equality have been given power through indifference, not only in genocide, but on much smaller scales with the results being bigger consequences.

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  61. In response to armandoramz: I agree with your thoughts on people naturally not becoming involved in what is not already affecting them. We as humans tend to have a selfish nature about us (referring back to Darwin's theory of "survival of the fittest"), and through this nature hypocritically destroy the "equality" we claim to strive for. We will not "lend a hand" in fear of retaliation, a most primitive characteristic, but one possessed nonetheless, and we demonstrate this daily through our politics. It is a logical choice for us to make, but an inhumane one, and in making it we make ourselves no better than the animals we derived from.

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  62. Indifference means that you don't pay attention to the bad that happens around you. Also, sometimes if your friend gets in trouble for something, you don't want to help that friend because you don't want to get in trouble. Everyone usually thinks about themselves.

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  63. In response to Sam Haywood. I totally agree with thought indifference, especially examole of the friend play. I think everyone doesn't want to get trouble in relationship of friends. If I talked with her my friends also could thinks that me attached to her. that is why we get afraid to don't help people even they needed it.

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